Princess ([info]flutenerd) wrote in [info]free_palestine,
Did anybody see this on CNN earlier today....


I'm sorry I've forgotten who the anchorman was, but he was (live on the air) on the phone with a Lebanese-American woman (a citizen of the United States) who has been trapped in Lebanon while visiting her family. I believe her name was Sara Ahmadia. The anchorman was asking her various questions about conditions over there and the safety of Americans in Lebanon. She said that there was one thing she wanted to say on the air before her time was up, and the anchorman listened intently for a moment. She then addressed the fact that the vast majority of those killed in Lebanon have been not Hezbollah or military personnel, but innocent civilians who have absolutely no ties to Hezbollah whatsoever.
The anchorman said something to the effect of "we're not allowed to comment on that" and then cut her off.


Uuuuugggghhhh, that just made me so angry. I know they aren't allowed to comment regarding their own opinions (*COUGH* Fox News *COUGH*!) but it's like the American media won't even address the fact that civilians (on both sides) are being killed and focuses all its energy on Hezbollah.
...I get even MORE of this being that I live in Westchester County, right outside of New York City.
Ughhh.

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[info]puppet_of_god

July 17 2006, 20:08:16 UTC 5 years ago

What does this have to do with palestinians or their plight? Perhaps whine about your country's media in the appropriate community?

[info]montreality

July 17 2006, 20:58:18 UTC 5 years ago

*troll alert*

[info]flutenerd

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Anonymous

July 17 2006, 22:10:18 UTC 5 years ago

CNN and the Palestinian plight

It has absolutely everything to do with the Palestinians and their plight. It is the essence of the Palestinian problem: They cannot properly publicize the injustices done to them with US funding, whereas the Israelis are in a position of being able to saturate the American public with ad hoc justifications and rationales on a daily basis. This post lays bare the general mechanisms by which, for more than half a century, the US media have understated, suppressed, spun, and/or flatly denied the plights of whoever is being maimed, tortured and killed with US aid money. The point is that this is standard US media policy: By removing the Palestinian or Lebanese plight (the Iraqi, Guatemalan, El Salvadorian plight—any plight that is a direct consequence of US aid and intervention) from public scrutiny via these cheap and nasty TV studio policies, US policy makers spare themselves the hassle of having to listen to their constituents’ complaints—for what they’re worth.

Anonymous

July 18 2006, 00:14:51 UTC 5 years ago

Freedom of speech.

Your reply shows you to be un-American.

I know the truth hurts when it focuses on the brutality of jews against everyone else, but this is a statement of fact and a fair reading of the incident.

One could just as easily suggest you move to israel.

[info]eyelidlessness

July 18 2006, 06:37:15 UTC 5 years ago

Zakat?

[info]yamansalahi

July 17 2006, 20:43:07 UTC 5 years ago

Yes, I caught that, and it was something to the effect of

* She talks about civilians
* Anchor goes, "you understand that is something totally different from our perception of events from over here"
* And she goes, "yeah, I understand, and it breaks my heart because things are so different here etc"
* And he goes, "well, I don't want to get into a debate about that on air, but I just wanted to let you know"
* And she goes, "Yes, I understand."

These are not exact quotes, but yes the name was Sara Ahmadia.

[info]dyslexiccashier

July 17 2006, 20:50:25 UTC 5 years ago

Who was the anchor?

Anonymous

July 17 2006, 20:44:12 UTC 5 years ago

Tony Hill was the newcaster

Yes, I did see it. It was Tony Hill.

Anonymous

July 17 2006, 21:37:43 UTC 5 years ago

Re: Tony Hill was the newcaster

Sorry U.S. but you can't see or hear the truth
of what Isreal is doing to it's neighbours.
You will have to wait till the war is over and then maybe BBC or some such agency will bring you all the truth.

Anonymous

July 17 2006, 23:44:44 UTC 5 years ago

Re: Tony Hill was the newcaster

Actually the gentleman's name is Tony Harris. He was on with Kyra Philps today around 2:50.

My girlfriend caught the tail end of this and was like "WTF"? I've been trying to find a clip of this.

[info]wurlitzerprized

July 18 2006, 01:08:04 UTC 5 years ago

westchester, right outside of new york city - meaning what?

i completely agree with everything you say. the you hit my achilles heel with that statement. i've been on here before and made such an 'overly sensitive' comment to someone's post. can you explain what you mean in a more direct manner?


Anonymous

July 18 2006, 01:15:45 UTC 5 years ago

Re: westchester, right outside of new york city - meaning what?

"To love. To be loved. To never forget your own insignificance. To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity of life around you. To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated or complicate what is simple. To respect strength, never power. Above all, to watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, to forget." - Arundhati Roy (http://www.weroy.org/) (weroy.org)

[info]flutenerd

July 18 2006, 01:40:13 UTC 5 years ago

Re: westchester, right outside of new york city - meaning what?

Just that Westchester tends to be a very pro-Zionist area, as does most of New York City. Naturally, a lot of the media and conversation in my area surrounding the Israel/Lebanon issue is very similar to that of CNN - ignoring Lebanese civilian deaths and a very pro-Israel attitude, despite its blatant aggression. I mean, I do love Westchester and it is a beautiful area and I'm very thankful to live here. Just making an observation.

[info]rg3design

July 18 2006, 01:29:04 UTC 5 years ago

Hearing about stuff like this really gets under my skin. It's so clear (at least to me) that there's such a pro-Israel slant on the reporting in the news about what's going on. None of the reporting is balanced. How can it be if civilian deaths are not counted? Shouldn't the public know who is being killed as well as who is doing the killing? There's no reason why civilians have to be targeted no matter what side someone is on. The civilians involved are people just like you and me who are going about their daily lives and trying to get through the day.

"You don't have to become a monster in order to defeat a monster." - Bono

Anonymous

July 18 2006, 02:47:52 UTC 5 years ago

This says it all

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060717/capt.c8723701e8f644f0b5befd7df750e8ea.aptopix_mideast_israel_lebanon_asc103.jpg?x=380&y=250&sig=hPCFoxXJhOQScH9UK_Bmow-- http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060717/pl_afp/mideastconflictlebanon_060717204728

[info]mparent7777

July 18 2006, 03:12:31 UTC 5 years ago

Speaking of Lebanese civiian deaths

Exqueeze my french but, Any cocksucking Zionists out there? Bring it on, mutherfuckers
http://mparent7777.livejournal.com/10335255.html

And how about that revoltin' Bolton cocksucker?

Lebanon civilian deaths morally not same as terror victims -- Bolton
http://mparent7777.livejournal.com/10336081.html

Again, exqueeze me Habibi for swears on your fine journal.


[info]flutenerd

July 18 2006, 03:53:53 UTC 5 years ago

Re: Speaking of Lebanese civiian deaths

Perfectly exqueezed. Many thanks for the links.

Anonymous

July 18 2006, 04:27:28 UTC 5 years ago

Re: Speaking of Lebanese civiian deaths

WWW.IAMTHEWITNESS.COM You'll find the truth about Zionism!

Anonymous

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Anonymous

July 18 2006, 04:52:20 UTC 5 years ago

Dear Flutenerd

Thanks for posting this. I saw the same interview with Tony Harris on CNN's Live From earlier, and it made me angry. So, mad in fact, I could not watch the rest o the interview without loudly talking at the screen, and I even thought of writing a letter of complaint to CNN, although, I'm not sure that it would do much good.

Harris also tried to twist reality. The young woman said that there were nearly 200 people on the ground killed -- mostly Lebanese citizens. Many of the citizens she claimed were anti-Hizballah and against terrorism. Many were innocent citizens, she said. But, she was cut off by Harris who said, "You know there are many people who disagree with your "perceptions" out there." And then went on to characterize her observations as fiction. I was surprised that he almost went as far as trying to debate her.

It really angered me. Not only was he unprofessional as a journalist, but it showed that even in American media that there is a slant that is pro-Israel. And this whole new level of violence is Israel's fault. They're the ones that murdered Palestinian citizens -- especially the incident of a family that was picnicking on the beach. But,

I understand that the Holocaust was a grave injustice and a crime against humanity -- although, Jews are not unique in their plight. Africans died en masse in the middle passage when slavery was legal. Native Americans died en masse when Europeans came to the new world and were slaughtered. Indonesians also died under Suharto. Nearly a million Iraqi children died because of sanctions under President Bill Clinton. There have been many genocides worldwide and throughout history, so Jews are NOT UNIQUE in this suffering.

I am not against Jewish people. Neither am I "for" terrorism. But, I'm sick and tired of legitimate criticism of Israel's crimes being stiffled in America (for example the massacre at Jenin, Sabra and Shatilla, and the current collective punishment in Lebanon.) I'm sick Jews labeling any legitimate criticism of Israel as "anti-Semitic."

[info]flutenerd

July 18 2006, 18:07:58 UTC 5 years ago

Re: Dear Flutenerd

Agreed entirely.
I am Armenian and as you may know, my people went through one hell of a genocide back in 1915. Many Zionists I have met have said to me, "But you're Armenian! Our people went through the same thing! You're supposed to be on our side!"
WRONG!
On the contrary: my people went through the same thing that Israel is doing to the Palestinians (and now the Lebanese). Mass killings, violence, displacement, and annexation of their homeland leaving them completely broken.
One genocide does not justify another.

Anonymous

July 18 2006, 13:35:06 UTC 5 years ago

I didn't see that particular moment on the news I have seen the media shaping the news. They have clearly been trying to create the appearance of white hats and blacks hats with Israel wearing the white hat, though there are none. Crimes have been done on both sides though Israel has been quick to escalate violence not decrease it and the body count of civilians killed by them is staggering. One of the reasons to create the good versus bad is it is easier to rally public support for increased violence if you can frame it in a way that appears as though its good versus evil. The reality is far different and more complex but those in power don't care about whats right, only about expanded power. Shaping the news to make people more comfortable with killing more people is a much used propaganda technique.

Anonymous

July 18 2006, 14:57:03 UTC 5 years ago

OK, before anyone goes off on me for being a racist or any other damn thing, I will tell you that I am Jewish. That is my religion. Some consider it a race, but if catholic, muslim or bhuddist aren't races then why is Judaism? (Spare me the lectures, I know the reason, but just because it has a reason, doesn't make it right).

It seems to me that the Isreali government (a completely separate entity from the Jewish faith) has not only violated God's commandments (Thou shalt not kill and thou shalt not steal, among others), they have also violated over 60 UN resolutions since their country's inception. In addition, every debt that Isreal owes has been secured by the US, most of Isreal's weapons and armaments are American and it is the only country in the region with Nukes (supplied by America).

Since October 2000
The Palestinian people have been responsible for killing approximately 121 Isreali children, while Isreal is responsible for the killing of over 700 Palestinian children.

Over 1000 Isrealis have been killed by Palestinians to the over 4000 Palestinians killed by Isreal.

Almost 10,000 Palestinians reside in Isreali jails and no more than 50 Isrealis are in Palestinian jails.

0 Isreali homes have been destroyed by Palestinians and over 4000 Palestinian homes have been destroyed by Isrealis.

Isreal has violated over 60 UN resolutions (www.ifamericansknew.com/stats/un.html) and the Palestinian people have violated 0.

To top it all off, the US gives Isreal over $15million a day (that's almost $2million per person in NYC per day) and gives the Palestinians just over $232,000 per day.

The US taxpayers also footed the bill when every family was moved out of the Isreali townships last year to the tune of almost $230,000 per household, but the US government won't even help their own citizens pay their mortgages.

If these numbers don't show how Isreal has abused it's position in the region, I don't know what will.

As I said before, I am a Jew, but I am not an Isreali or a Zionist. I beleive in my God and you should believe in yours. But don't use your God as an excuse to release all that hatred you have in your soul. If Isreal would stop attacking it's neighbours, perhaps the peace we seek in the Middle East would come to pass.

[info]flutenerd

July 18 2006, 18:09:01 UTC 5 years ago

very well said. Cheers.

Anonymous

July 18 2006, 15:12:58 UTC 5 years ago

Think about what matters

Guys. The fact is that palestinian blood as red as israeli's blood or lebanese blood. When I see pictures of the injured kids then I don't care what nationality they are.
But it's useless to watch the mainstream media nd then get angry. Don't watch it. Read more about issues that matter to you. And eventually if majority wouldn't buy this mass media crap then they go out of business. The same with politics. Don't just support one side because the other side is worse. If all of us do that then they also will go out of political business.
The elites and the media that promotes their agenda don't care about natinality. They just need blood to move their interest and power forward.
But we would be like a herd of animals following the stupid polititians into the abyss if we play their games by their rules.

[info]dyslexiccashier

July 18 2006, 22:56:10 UTC 5 years ago

Re: Think about what matters

"Guys. The fact is that palestinian blood as red as israeli's blood or lebanese blood. When I see pictures of the injured kids then I don't care what nationality they are."

Finally, someone has made that comment!
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